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莱茵金属埃尔哈特1904型山炮和克虏伯1908型山炮是不是同

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莱茵金属埃尔哈特1904型山炮和克虏伯1908型山炮是不是同一款山炮?


IP属地:广东来自Android客户端1楼2018-07-28 13:10回复
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    IP属地:广东来自Android客户端2楼2018-07-28 13:11
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      Ehrhardt 7.5 cm Model 1904
      Nr 1
      Type
      mountain gun
      Place of origin
      Germany
      Service history
      In service
      1904–1917
      Used by
      German Empire
      South Africa
      Portugal
      Wars
      World War I
      Production history
      Designer
      Rheinmetall
      Manufacturer
      Rheinmetall
      No. built
      12
      Variants
      Horse-drawn
      Specifications
      Weight
      529 kg (1,166 lb)
      Barrel length
      1.27 m (4 ft 2 in)
      Shell
      5.3 kilograms (12 lb)
      Caliber
      75 millimetres (3.0 in)
      Carriage
      Pole trail
      Elevation
      -7° to +38.5°
      Traverse
      2.5°
      Muzzle velocity
      300 m/s (980 ft/s)
      Maximum firing range
      5,750 m (6,290 yd)
      译文
      Ehrhardt 7.5 cm 1904型
      莱茵金属埃尔哈特1904型
      类型 山炮
      原产地 德国
      服役时间1904 - 1917
      所使用的国家
      德意志第二帝国
      南非
      葡萄牙
      参与战争 第一次世界大战
      设计 Rheinmetall 莱茵金属
      制造商 Rheinmetall 莱茵金属
      重量 529公斤(1166磅)
      弹重 5.3公斤(12磅)
      口径 75毫米(3.0英寸)
      高低射界 7°+ 38.5°
      水平射界 2.5°
      初速 300米/秒(980英尺/秒)
      最大射程 5750米(6290码)


      IP属地:广东来自Android客户端4楼2018-07-28 13:13
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        1908年克虏伯75mm山炮
        生产或服役年份:1908年
        口径:75mm
        炮管长:17倍口径
        高低射界:-7度~+38.5/30度
        水平射界:5度
        弹丸重:5.3kg
        弹药初速:300m/sec
        重量:529kg
        最大射程:5750m


        IP属地:广东来自Android客户端5楼2018-07-28 13:14
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          图片为莱茵金属埃尔哈特1904型山炮的外观


          IP属地:广东来自Android客户端6楼2018-07-28 13:15
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            图片为莱茵金属公司的艾哈德山炮的外观



            IP属地:广东来自Android客户端7楼2018-07-28 13:21
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              图片为在挪威塞特默恩(Model 1911 on display in Setermoen, Norway)摆放的莱茵金属1911年75mm山炮


              IP属地:广东来自Android客户端9楼2018-07-28 13:37
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                不是


                IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端10楼2018-07-28 18:27
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                  有晋十二式山炮的图吗


                  IP属地:山西来自iPhone客户端11楼2018-07-28 21:08
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                    1904倒是和日本41山外形挺像的。


                    来自Android客户端12楼2018-07-29 15:52
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                      7.5 cm Gebirgskanone Model 1911
                      Designer
                      Rheinmetall
                      Manufacturer
                      Rheinmetall
                      Weight
                      509 kg (1,122 lbs)
                      Barrel length
                      1.2 m (3 ft 11 in) L/17[1]
                      Shell weight
                      6.5 kg (14 lb 5 oz)
                      Caliber
                      75 mm (2.95 in)
                      Elevation
                      -5° to 36°
                      Traverse

                      Muzzle velocity
                      315 m/s (1,033 ft/s)
                      Maximum firing range
                      6,900 m (7,546 yds)
                      莱茵金属1911型75mm山炮
                      设计 Rheinmetall
                      制造商 Rheinmetall
                      重量 :509公斤(1122磅)
                      炮管长度 1.2 m(3英尺11英寸)
                      炮管倍径L/17。17倍
                      炮弹重量 6.5公斤(14磅5盎司)
                      口径 75毫米(2.95英寸) 高低射界 5°——36°
                      水平射界 6°[1]
                      初速 315米/秒(1033英尺/秒)
                      最大射程 6900米(7546码)[1]


                      IP属地:广东来自Android客户端13楼2018-08-11 11:25
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                        The 7.5cm Schutztruppe Mountain Gun
                        Photos by C Dale
                        In 1904 Ehrhardt designed a new 75mm mountain gun using the world's first variable recoil system. Variable recoil is still a feature of modern artillery pieces. The Ehrhardt 1904 model was never used by the regular German army and its issue was limited to twelve guns for the Schutztruppe of German South West Africa.
                        Luckily all twelve original guns still survive. Photos of four of the Schutztruppe mountain guns are shown below. Those of Gun No.7 in the Imperial War Museum in London are by Chris Dale, and those of the three guns at Pretoria and the South African National Museum of Military History in Johannesburg are by MC Heunis. Also on this page are contemporary prints showing how the guns were transported and deployed. These were originally published in "Gebirgs- und Kolonialartillerie" by Generalmajor z.D. R. Wille (Berlin 1910) and have kindly been shown to us by Holger Kotthaus. Please respect the owners' generosity in sharing these images with us by not reproducing them without prior permission. Underneath the photographs, MC Heunis and Vincent Wratten tell the full story of the Schutztruppe Mountain Guns.
                        (Click on the pictures to enlarge)


                        IP属地:广东来自Android客户端14楼2018-08-11 11:27
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                          The Story of the Schutztruppe 7.5cm Mountain Gun
                          #MC Heunis and Vincent Wratten
                          #The two small guns in front and one east of the Union Buildings are 7,5 cm Ehrhardt model 1908 mountain guns (German: 7,5 cm Gebirgskanone L/17 M.08, or short: 7,5 cm Geb L/17 M.08), produced by the Rheinische Metallwaaren und Maschinenfabrik of Düsseldorf in Germany. Their German designer, Ehrhardt, was known for his innovative ideas and his 15-pounder Quick Firing (Q.F.) gun was the first long recoil gun issued to the British Army. The Imperial German Army, although it possessed no mountain artillery units in Europe, found a use for such units in the German colonies and purchased mountain guns from both Krupp and Ehrhardt for this purpose. In the colonies these guns proved of great value in mountainous terrain and were also later pressed into normal field gun and infantry support roles during the First World War.
                          #In 1904 Ehrhardt produced a very advanced design - a mountain gun which had a ‘variable recoil’ mechanism, possibly a first in the world of artillery. By the early 1900's, most guns produced had some sort of recoil mechanism which greatly increased the rate of fire by not only absorbing recoil, but also bringing the barrel back to its original firing position ready for re-loading. A problem was however encountered when a high elevation was demanded, as the breech would recoil into the ground or the trail of the carriage. Ehrhardt realised that the higher the angle of fire, the less the recoil and came up with a solution, variable recoil, which is still a feature of modern artillery pieces. In other words, the distance the barrel of the gun recoiled was determined by the angle of elevation, which resulted in a versatile and stable firing platform. Further stability was obtained by using the weight of two gunners who were given small metal folding seats each side of the trails.


                          IP属地:广东来自Android客户端15楼2018-08-11 11:29
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                            #Ehrhardt seemed to favour pole trails for his designs, and these little mountain guns were no exception; its trail consisted of three tubular sections, two at the front and one at the rear. This arrangement made for lightness and if the rear part was folded up, a pair of shafts could be inserted into the Y of the frame for horse towing. Another reason for this arrangement of the carriage was to allow more elevation if the rear pole was left disconnected. Should the gun be towed over long distances, then a small limber was provided and provisioned with some ready rounds for quick deployment. The gun could also, as with most mountain artillery, be carried on the backs of pack animals and for this function it could be broken down into five subassemblies. A closer look at the carriage will reveal several quick release points.
                            #Because of the recoil mechanism, the crew could remain next to the gun throughout firing and protection was given to them by a large folding shield. This shield could also be disassembled and consisted of seven pieces. There is photographic evidence of a shield extension on at least one gun, but this might have been a field modification. At first the shields had a thickness of 3.5 mm but this was later reduced to 3 mm to save on weight


                            IP属地:广东来自Android客户端16楼2018-08-11 11:29
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                              All twelve German guns were surrendered to the South African Union Defence Force (UDF) at Khorab in July 1915 and were brought to South Africa as trophies. At this juncture it came to light that light artillery pieces were needed for the UDF’s campaign in German East Africa and of the twelve, six pieces in better condition were selected and sent to fight against their former owners. In German East Africa they were used until 1917, when they were withdrawn due to poor condition and returned to South Africa.
                              Fortunately, possibly due to their small size, all twelve guns have survived although most are not in a very good condition. It is thought that they were originally painted in a sand colour when delivered to the Schutztruppen, but most now sport other colour schemes. Their current locations are as follow:


                              IP属地:广东来自Android客户端18楼2018-08-11 11:30
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