看看图片能不能发出来。这边的和谐太难受了，想放在个站上，但不方便讨论没流量也没有专程发出来的意义，呃。

因为前述发现实际都是几年前的事了，红迪也没有精品区找起来颇困难，我先逐个转述一下中途看到的帖子中有价值的信息。
·level 4Human-Tale·3 yr. ago
From what I remember, and I could be wrong, Morroz wanted big money for them and Schnell was prepared to pay despite a lot of the scene warning him against it. A lot thought they were boots. Anyway, the deal went ahead and Schnell received them... and they were boots. Morroz apparently didn’t know this. There was some kind of agreement worked out where Morroz ended up sending Schnell his originals. Again, I’m not sure on the specifics, but that’s the version of the story as I understand it at least.
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Sharelevel 5abaroquehouse·3 yr. ago
Morroz was cool and too my knowledge the boots were from someone else... morroz I think got his copies from Avery. But yeah Morroz was supposed to send me Blood Sex and never did. I had to get my money back from PayPal
【贴主找到了一个可以在线下载《血》系列第五部的日本网站，但有人指出网站所用的网盘类型很不靠谱，唯一的办法还是从日本买到复件。随后有人提到板块中关于此片的旧闻，Schnell想从Morroz那花高价买到整套录像，当时有很多人警告他说买到手也很可能只是boots（拷贝的盗版VHS？我没查到什么意思）。而Schnell最后收到的也确实是赝品，不过Morroz后来寄出了原件。（回复者表示他不能保证前文的真实性和准确性……）】
【之后有人跟帖说，S收到的boots应该是其他人寄来的，而Morroz那套是从Avery（大概是另一名坛友）那收来的。】
*前文回顾：提到这部影片集是因为第二部的内容和GFAP颇相似，并且这系列原本也是完全不为人所知的地下影片。板块上有人因此去问了twistedanger，希望他能给出一些信息，还真管用。但后来twisteddanger的discord账号被封了，坛友们与他失去了联系……

然后是我一开始搜索《血海》找到的帖子以及其下的回复。

【没有什么有用的信息。一名小油管主做了个关于《血海》系列的视频，其中给出了全系列的封面图（这张图片是推特上的一个日本人发的，但视频作者也记不清确切ID了），他发帖表示也许问一下这位能得到什么信息。】
【没有后续了。那个封面图贴吧发不出来，所以也忽略。】

他提到了梦幻电影军团，也就是电影军团的另一部动画作品，这部动画冷门到在网上没有资源，但其中的几个女角色在九十年代很知名。雅虎的是死链，imgur的图片和主题没什么关联。
“ZZ不正确”君之后说：
“I only heard rumors about an anime adaptation of the Lady in The Sea of Blood but nothing confirmed yet,easiest way to check would be to access Film Corps catalog but since it was a low budget B movie company that no longer exists its almost impossible to do it now unless you contact someone who used to work there.”
【据说血海美女存在动画改编作，但他无法证实。最简单的方法是查找电影军团的官方目录，但它是个低成本B级片公司，早就关闭了，恐怕只有联系当年的工作人员才能找到目录。】
之后是ryanfortney的回复，他的好基友收藏了很多非常珍惜的……那种日本片子，其中就有这系列。
”What I did note was, my friends, Sea of Blood tapes have 5 different catalog numbers (#1 in the series has no sleeve, thus no identifiable cat no.”“However, there looks like there is a minimum of 14 released by the label at the time which leaves around 9 tapes remaining that are unknown to me.”
【这些录像带有五个不同的目录编号。根据包装上的信息，当时电影军团应该总共发布了至少14部影片。】
“I looked at the back of the Sea of Blood boxes my buddy has and the only connection to the Dream Film Corps I can see is the last part - Film Corps. I believe these are two separate labels: Dream Film Corps and Film Corps. The word "dream" is no where on the Sea of Blood artwork. I checked as well with an Adult Video Store in Japan who also has the Sea of Blood titles filed under just Film Corps. They are very thorough but do not stock hentai/anime/etc. Could be related somehow but I'm leaning towards not unless one of the labels is a sub-label/companion label to other. Pretty common to see that in adult titles from Japan. There are thousands upon thousands of Adult labels in Japan, usually each with specific focus. Still leaves 9 unknown movies in the Film Corps catalog however.”
【他说在包装上只能找到“電影軍團”的字样，在一个尽管深入但并不算专注于地下影片的日本成人片网站查询作品标题，所得到的结果也是“电影军团”，他认为“梦幻电影军团”有可能和前述毫无关联，但也可能是同一厂牌下的分支。】
说到《血海》，如果你人在欧美的话那有办法轻松搞到第二部（其实和GFAP的情节不是很像），既然有人怀疑GFAP是它的改编作，那也许是改编自其他几部。

等等，终于找到了。这是三年前的总集贴。包括之前提到的几个提及页面的链接。
http和s://ww谐w.red谐dit.com社/r/SakisanNoBashi会tsu/comments/j13wym/updates_on_shareyourworld_screenshots_and_mouse/
Current State of the GFAP Community : SakisanNoBashitsu

那么现在开始综述。时间关系不会逐字译出。只转述重点和大意。网站因为容易吞，有价值的尽量放图，死链就随便了。
后续还有很多反转，但先慢慢来。
Posted byu/moncayk1
3 years ago
To begin, on Sunday, August 30th, 2020, user D393268 posted a thread on SakisanNoBashitsu about the movie “Lady in the Sea of Blood” as a way to demonstrate that “there is a lot of obscure shit out there, from animation to live action films, waiting to get discovered. Specially in the horror experimental genre, which is not made for everyone and the distribution is limited.” By the next day, such a finding caught the attention of prominent user Chris_Able, who was especially interested in this film’s alleged depiction of a woman’s death in a bathroom. Although this clearly wasn’t “Go for a Punch,” the thematic similarities between this movie and the anime prompted user Charlmarx to purchase the DVD from the distributer Twisted Danger.
【那么这是目前的主要搜索方向的起源。2020年8月30日，D393268在本版发布了一则有关《血の海の美女》的帖子，事实上他只是想借此表示“像这种看起来压根没什么市场印量也确实很少的奇怪片子多着呢！所以一切皆有可能。”第二天，板块的重要成员Chris_Able注意到了这个帖子，特别是“一名女性死在浴室中”的描述，虽然这肯定不是GFAP，但似乎有什么联系。另一名用户Charlmarx特意去Twisted Danger网站买了翻录的DVD。】
tps三w点twis和tedanger谐.com/社lady-in-the-sea-of-blood
（这个网站的背景可能造成jump scare。DVD是实体的，需要邮寄。）
However, even though Charlmarx would not receive his copy until Sunday, September 6th, 2020, giving access to the DVD in full, D393268 actually provided his copy of the film to Chris_Able, which he then shared on Tuesday, September 1st, 2020. In summary, the movie follows a woman for roughly 30 minutes as she brushes her teeth and bathes in blood in a bathroom. Ultimately, that is all that you need to know, as the full content of the movie is not relevant to the rest of this summary, but if you would like to see it for yourself the link is provided. Additionally, for anyone who is interested in this film in particular, it has been confirmed that this is actually the second of five in a series of difficult to find Japanese movies.
【但至少要等到9月6号，Charlmarx君才能收到DVD。所以其实是D393268复制了一份视频发给Chris_Able，当时的日期是9月1日。之后是影片的简介，从略。档案馆有更详细的介绍。】

Now, the true importance of finding “Lady in the Sea of Blood” came when its distributor, Twisted Anger, was successfully contacted through their business email by Chris_Able on Monday, September 7th, 2020. The notion was that their experience in unearthing rare cult, horror, and exploitation films could prove useful in finding this lost anime. Thus, in order to bring in the other researchers, Chris_Able asked the Twisted Anger employee to come to the “Go For A Punch Search” discord server to discuss further. Within 10 minutes this individual agreed, and shortly after joined as user TwistedAnger. Through their conversation with the community, the employee not only relayed that “Lady in the Sea of Blood” had a lost related anime, but also provided them with the following indexed links from their proprietary software.
【直到2020年9月7日，Chris_Able通过商业邮箱成功联系上了Twisted Anger，发现《血海》的意义才凸显出来。 Chris_Able邀请该网站的员工去GFAP的discord频道讨论，不到十分钟网站一方就同意了，并作为用户TwistedAnger加入。讨论中，网站的员工提到，《血海》有一部未知的动画衍生作，另外贴出了他们通过网站的proprietary software检索到的链接（以4chan贴文的描述作为关键词，耗时不到十分钟）】

第一个链接在常规的浏览器上打开是404，但Twisted Anger表示网站的文本中包含 “9 Girls stuck in a bathroom while their parents try to find them.” （通过特殊方式抓取到的网站内容）；第二个链接无法定位到liveleak上的任何视频，但TA称其中包含“BIZZARE ANIME where 9 girls COMMIT SUICIDE FOR 5 DAYS!” 的内容；第三个链接可以打开，但无关主题，只是刚好有“9” “locked,”两个关键词。
the fourth link is a deep web site, by Dark Anime, that is no longer active but appears to be the most promising find here. Although no one in the community could access the website, the Twisted Anger employee was contacted the following day to learn more. This individual revealed that the index was from 2013, pre-dating the 4chan original poster, and exported the page so that Chris_Able could host it publicly. The site, which can be viewed below, presents a dead Streamable video link, a brief summary of “Go for a Punch,” and a 1986 origin date for the anime. If real, this is definitive proof of the anime existing.
【第四个链接是一个暗网链接，不过也可以从常规浏览器访问。但有人指出这个网址不合规范……。TA的员工花了几天时间才查看到网站内容。查找到的网页大概建立于2013年，早于4chan贴文（15年），并导出了网页文件，这样Chris_Able就能将网站放在公共互联网上了。这个网站相应的页面如下：

This situation ultimately becomes more complicated, when on Tuesday, September 8th, 2020, the TwistedAnger discord account was hacked, and then banned by Chris_Able. Sadly, this community is familiar with such trolling attempts, the original discord server previously getting hacked and deleted. Nevertheless, all of the findings were provided before TwistedAnger was hacked, and the employee has spoken to Chris_Able, and user Kaiser (Charlmarx), about the situation over a private email given to them over discord. This post-hacking conversation even resulted in recovering the original Dark Anime logo, which is provided below. All in all, this leaves the community with first, the knowledge that content similar to “Saki Sanobashi” does in fact exist, although live action, and second, potential next steps. Many members have been reinvigorated by this discovery, now looking into a surface web Dark Anime website in the Wayback Machine with the same logo for clues and turning to potential sources for the anime like torrent sites or cult anime distributers.
【但情况不妙。2020年9月8日，TA的discord账号被黑，随后CA封掉了这个账号。事实上，GFAP的discord频道已经被恶意删除过一次了，这次不算新鲜事。TA所提供的信息都被黑掉了，TA向CA和Kaiser (Charlmarx)发私信讨论当前的情况，并最终恢复了第四个链接所指向的网站Dark Anime原本的logo。

其他许多成员也按照这个方向，在wayback machine上浏览有相同logo的表网Dark Anime寻找证据，尝试从BT站或者某些地下动画发布者那里找到或许存在的资源。

支持

血海美女的第二部可以在web archive上找到

Lidkas通过wayback machine找到的网站首页

On Thursday, July 30th, 2020, Chris_Able found an entry in the Wayback Machine from the website Share Your World mentioning “go for a punch” as a video. The site, which is one of the internet’s earliest video sharing services, was archived in 2007 in this case, with the video not saved. This alone was not enough to prove the existence of this anime at the time, as “go for a punch” is a phrase that could easily be attached to something else. Then, on Monday, August 31st, 2020, Chris_Able dove deeper into this finding, as requested by others, examining the source code, where he found that the video was added to Share Your World by none other than “DarkAnime.” Sadly, before this connection could be definitively made with the deep web site and recently discovered surface web Dark Anime site, the entry disappeared from the Wayback Machine, leaving only the following screenshots taken by Chris_Able. Currently, the general consensus from the community is that trolls, which have relentlessly attacked the search process, “mass emailed” the Wayback Machine and got this specific link taken down from the platform.
2020年7月30日，Chris_Able曾在Share Your World（互联网上最早的视频分享网站之一）用wayback machine找到了一个提及“go for a punch”视频的页面，而页面存档于2007年，视频并没有被保存下来。当然，只是关键词吻合并不能证明这就是我们要找的GFAP。之后在2020年8月31日，Chris_Able继续往下深挖，有网友建议他检阅一下源代码，他发现源代码中显示上传者是“DarkAnime”。但还没等到表网的Dark Anime被发现，这个页面突然从wayback machine上消失了，原因不明，只有Chris_Able的截图留下来。目前，论坛的共识是一些trolls攻击了搜索进程，向wayback machine发送大量请求并最终使得这一链接被移除（以免为档案馆的服务器带来过多压力）。
这是Chris_Able发现的页面。

这是查看2000年3月的网页存档如今会得到的页面。

Chris_Able所发现网页的几段源代码，最下方写有视频上传者的ID。

喜闻乐见，发不出去

再然后是另一个搜索方向，Political_Incorrect提到的“梦幻电影军团”的作品。称为 "mouse pet special"。
BadUsername25还给出了一个雅虎日拍链接，日拍链接在拍卖关闭之后应该就会失效，尽管网页时光机保存有快照，我切了日本和美国IP都打不开……


就算梦幻电影军团并不是GFAP的制作方，但相关的STAFF很可能与GFAP的制作有所关联。而且骏河屋应该是比较可靠的，据说他们会事先检查碟片等能否正常播放（应该是在收购时），最差的情况也就是买到品相不好的盗版碟，倒不至于发完全不相干的东西。
另外有人提到，许多年前他在日本生活过，曾见到一些八十年代的老VHS录像带，但如今他在网上根本找不到这些影片的信息，一部都找不到。他还提出了一个假设，制片方也可能会因为版权争议而不愿在动画目录列出自己的个别作品，或者干脆披马甲。
*之前也有人提出了类似的假设，比方说，如果GFAP或者制片方曾发布的其他影片使用了Konami的角色形象……那因为版权纠纷直接导致公司关闭也是很正常的。

到下一个帖子。部分细节参考了另一个帖子某用户的复述。
Posted by u/moncayk1
3 years ago
因为wayback machine上并不能查到Chris_Able截图的页面，社区中开始有人怀疑截图的真实性。discord用户Star因此去问了Chris_Able本人，Chris_Able承认ShareYourWorld的截图事实上来自另一名discord用户，而那个用户如今已经销号了。
据CA所言，User bd820a7a最初于2020年6月3日联系到他，说他通过Wayback Machine在ShareYourWorld上找到了GFAP。这个人随后贴出了截图，也就是CA于7月30日发布的那张。
他们的聊天记录如下，包括源码的截图也是这名注销用户提供的：



由于不确定截图是否可靠以及生活上的杂事，Chris_Able过了一段时间才发布了截图，并且有意无意地没有提到截图的真实来源。Chris_Able表示截图确实很有可能是假的，可能只是有人故意捣乱。这样一来，同样给出了“Dark Anime” 作为根据的discord账户TwistedAnger或许也是假的。
之后就是mouse pet special的话题。2020年9月20日，BadUsername25发了一则有关电影军团的帖子，二楼层主在回复中提到了这部影片作为限制级动画的例子。
然而，discord用户Maximov指出“Mouse Pet Special”只是一部没有授权的私制录像带，内容是梦幻电影军团从RANOMONTO SOFT正规售出的录像带中截取的部分片段。Maximov从专注于遗失媒体的油管主Innocentious VHS那得知，电影军团以专门从事发布正规动画的非法私制影片而闻名。包括编辑OVA动画并以不同的名称贩卖，也出售同人H片的编集。而“Mouse Pet Special”属于后者（回复中有人提到，“mouse”其实应该是乱马1/2中一名男性角色的名字，也有视频网站标注该片是乱马的同人动画）。所以搜索的重点更应该放在实际的动画制作公司或者个人作者身上，而不是比如电影军团这样的中间人。
此外，电影军团所贩售的影片似乎质量都比较低劣，而GFAP的作画质量应该是比较高的，GFAP目前来看应该也与任何其他已知的动画无关。
（关于作画质量，贴主判断的依据是GFAP中有高帧数的大幅动作场面（女孩的头反复撞击洗手池），而那时低质量的动画，包括同人自制的动画等，往往有很多PPT式静止画。）
当然，GFAP也有可能确实是同人动画，那这样一来搜索就更艰难了——心跳回忆事件（1997年）发生之后，贩卖相关影片的个人或团体销毁了许多限制级同人动画录像带以避嫌。
最后，“Mouse Pet Special”的原出处应该是一部叫做“The Shower”的影片。因为吞得太厉害不发图了。帖子的顺序被吞帖机制弄得有点乱，我想还是在别的网站上再整理一遍比较好。

一些别的。
Lidkas·
3 yr. ago
也就是先前找到dark anime主页的人，看起来他是板块的管理员之一。
We have all the proof we need that people from Twisted Anger are legit. The archive on the site isnt really something that can be faked so easily, since the source code doesnt give us any red flags, it has actual streameble thing and the company would fire workers who use their brand email just to troll some people. Also one link he sent us wasnt any anime, but an interactive horror game, and the phrase he found about being locked near some gate was in the game and was correct (i played it myself to check) which means that he actually did find all these instead of faking them, its impossible he had this one link prepared to troll us, since he joined seconds after we emailed them and as i said finding links took him like 10 minutes
【他认为TA给出的链接很难造假，除开网页的格式（源代码都是可运行的）和设计风格很古老这点以外还有别的根据。视频尽管无法观看，但确实有streameble thing（不知道该怎么翻译，意会）。此外，意外搜索到的互动文字游戏网站经实际游玩验证确实有包括这两个关键词的文本，也就是说TA确实是搜索到了这些链接。况且，几秒之内TA就同意了他们discord的邀请，并在十分钟之内给出了搜索结果。】