vivec吧 关注:3,781贴子:45,019

同人想法,怎么给breton的卑屈和伪的神系写正

只看楼主收藏回复

特别是reachmen。ireland记得是最后也没被罗马征服的不列颠之地被shelley在Adonis里提到过。然后是意大利当时的金字塔坟也是。到处都是看王权正统的,不如来点悲观弱小的反抗道德但是用反向来肯定自我。或者khajiit一样。


IP属地:上海来自Android客户端1楼2023-11-09 22:30回复
    想法1大地崇拜。 天地颠倒。
    red eagle是最古老的登天人类英雄但是失败了。但是他不断通过地骨和breton萨满巫术重生。tiber是偷的red eagle的知识成的皇帝。(red eagle在eso里也给几个红卫剑圣点过招讲的是爱的剑道)
    矛来自于hircine。矛是不屈于奥王弓的短刀。
    短刀来之于dagon。
    大地是daedra的领域。nirn:father of daedra。这里参考mysterium xarxes.
    daedra崇拜总要有个理由


    IP属地:上海来自Android客户端2楼2023-11-09 22:52
    回复
      2 天地颠倒的本源是bal或者elf的raptio
      breton的封建主义的商人,农民,领主的目的是给大地里参照的hoard of dead king加石头。这个枷锁是反而他们对精灵的抵抗意志。“用俗钱来买天赋王权”。
      参考orcus和blake的orc


      IP属地:上海来自Android客户端3楼2023-11-09 22:58
      收起回复
        3.
        主题是背叛,革新,自我完善
        借鉴的是尼采geneaology of morals里对奴隶道德通过自我发明做主的分析。
        灵感是tiber说是alcaire来的诺德或混血或breton。
        想法是主神是dagon和namira作为akatosh和alessia的反面,不是登天而是掉到地府去。然后类似robert e howard的柯南信的女主神一样和北欧神话是天地反着的,是在地府里不断轮回到地面上。地府成为了aetherius的对等。
        英雄要堕落土地成为矿石。
        矿石是mithril,是古代breton的主要武器,是trinimac的faeces里的种子(trinimac的二设是皮肤是moonstone心脏是满是种子的果实做成的机器人)。
        种子被namira吞噬消化,集在一起成了代表堕落的精灵性和消化反而提升的人性,从种子变成了(化)石头。
        变成石头是因为起源是bal。精灵对nede的rap的tio变成天对地的raptio。金精塔对high rock的raptio。作为对永恒的天上插下来的塔/宇宙船(goodall也不知是khulmann的而设adamantine tower是aedra宇宙船)反抗,地上竖起凡性,ephemeral的cairn和mound。直到adamantine变成全部凡人的cairn为止的道德反抗。
        最早namira是因为direnni统治被raptio迫怀上精灵血的nede农民的女儿。她去山丘上去向nede的古圣灵求救但是她对auriel的痛恨和对精灵血的痛恨让她的祈祷从向上变成了向下倒转。由于shor son of shor写的“下面还不存在”所以她硬是向下求声的努力没有召唤灵或龙而是召唤了dagon。dagon不是dragon。
        哲学讨论她痛恨的起源,邪恶的存在,邪恶的本源,古圣对于精灵vs nede的正义,raptio的本质,bal的本质,道德的本质。这里太多想法了慢慢想。
        namira恳求dagon给自己体内受到的邪恶给个解决法。于是dagon就说了某教的mary和mary magdalene的parable。还有在南方奴隶起义和alessia的预言。
        namira则看出就算是这样改了血统和道德做主了,raptio的事实和被raptio的本质是没有改变的。最后还是要怀着精灵血或者形态。她恳求dagon让自己变回没有受伤的自己,通过真实的价值而不是幻想来肯定自我的伤(sundering, mortal wound)。于是大滚就提出了问题,什么是非天也非海,非时也非空的,什么是精灵永远无法侵害的人的本质,什么才是作为古老的lorkhan的诺言?时间的本性是什么?
        然后namira明白了dagon承诺她的东西。永恒的大地,里面只有自我消化,认知和忘却,聚和散。此时一刻所珍惜的黄金的永恒在下一刻和沙尘对等。然后namira明白了人的最为古老的爱。被海洋所忘却,被天所渴求。大地的本质是时间的进化和破碎本身。


        IP属地:上海来自Android客户端4楼2023-11-09 22:58
        回复
          4.
          于是dagon承诺"namira, for as long as thou by both thine own and elven kind spited, and thy children are ill and disperse in search of wild vines bitter to chew upob to cure their ugliness, I shall call thee my liege. desire to knowing has begotten thee but the fruit is of understanding, its miscarriage. therefore their scattering too must find purposes in my razors investigation of Kings and their bowels. from the bowels of Kings I have found the antidote to sorrow and I administer to the evil in the shape of an empty chalice in thy belly which should had been joyful. so let sorrow cure the absense of all mortal joys. Namira, for as long as thy scions are weak, many and always hidden under the earth, as i hid under the waves of the ocean, this promise shall NEVER be fulfilled. the promise, that the four corners of the world shall cease their purpose, and the ruling King is the One. children of harlots and cuckolded carpenters, seek purity down below. thou art the wyrms and snakes, multiply and guard the hoard of the Secret King who is dead in the centre, but will return. thy teeth shall be judged as worthy and mined by snake tongued merchants again while they await the dreamer to dream under the red molten mantle of man. and there shall be an Tower erected through inversion by deep folk, who shall now become thy slaves and concubines, O Namira. the World-Spewer."


          IP属地:上海来自Android客户端5楼2023-11-09 22:59
          回复
            8.
            "
            Dagon, " so be it, Queen. I shall forge by carving an idolon out of my razors shape to test the Will of Mer and Power of Man. Let them erect it in prostration and cut themselves with infinite facets that extend to all fantastic spectrums till they believe dreaming is truth. and let they believe there is a dreamer and i alone await them to dream. but i have infinite time to spare. let them chase the fantasy of colours out of time which is me under the waves. let me be reinvented as hell raiser through statesmanship and knowledge. but know that there is nothing below and the echo is your own Voice. and I am eternal Emptiness under the waves, or in darkness, from the teeth of my Mother its shining sheen.


            IP属地:上海来自Android客户端9楼2023-11-09 23:16
            回复
              9.
              Namira: Mehr-Unes-Dag-On. if Sheor is the inspiration of the Song, thou art the contemplation in his absence. Thus all razor thinking has become me through you, my deathless legion from unlife whom I gave birth to.
              Dagon: and this shall mark the inauguration of things Never to Be. We are all We to be, but never not to be.
              the promise shall be broken and never be kept until it is Time. And we have all hidden ourselves awaiting thy command. All Conquerer, we humble wyrms and snakes and creeping folk are at your advice till thou hast grown to swallow us. Let fever for earth be like a Plague. let the golden wear the mask of pale yellow Sand. We are here against All Times. Let a foolish young man from Alcaire who has learnt of our converse through the rune signs of elves upon the doom-mound which he does not yet understand. and let there be an erection in inversion of thy image. Earth, Moon, Nirn. to thee we children return, till we are asunder once more but in eternal truth. where there is only perfect music with Kings eternal return.


              IP属地:上海来自Android客户端10楼2023-11-09 23:17
              回复
                10.
                Namira" the sword in the stone shall breed all cuckold Kings, let the eternal Isle be filled with Bretons. let their blood mingle with men and mer but return All to me. i have inversed birthright to be a weapon against the sword. there will be a wise starman among the tribes of travelling balm and incense sellers, blind and tells the motions in heaven by tasting the sand. He will find the sword of Kings and break it permanently into infinity. this is my answer for the sword in the stone, and i uphold this empty chalice for the broken sword pieces that are infinity. Man or Mer shall all return to me, this is the eternal Land with no need of King.
                Dagon : I wrote this with my razor and blood in cold desert sand. It is burning like the plague of red death so let it be. until the empty Cup shall be drained unto completion.
                the ending of the World is WHAT DOES NOT KILL ME MAKES ME STRONGER.


                IP属地:上海来自Android客户端11楼2023-11-09 23:19
                回复
                  blessed is the port, sailing finally ashore. Brother, from Norths harsh winter, to eternal South, where he went, the Pole, by going even further! further North, harsher Love, harsher Truth! Persian Prince fright not the snow, the Sun is clear as day!


                  IP属地:上海来自Android客户端12楼2023-11-10 01:53
                  回复
                    *port -> poet


                    IP属地:上海来自Android客户端13楼2023-11-10 01:53
                    回复
                      想法11dark brotherhood原本是崇拜namira为夜母(children of night, robert e howard),sanguine为代理dagon和namira的永不兑现covenant的代表玫瑰的blood wife,mephala代理namira是代表藤蔓的medicine father.是direnni统治下一个给direnni炼金术提供材料的杂物官建立的cult。表面上崇拜的是sai或者zenithar(作为奴隶道德的象征,奴隶的享乐,代表sanguine隐藏dagon)dibella和mara(隐藏mephala,进一步隐藏namira)的教。4代lucky old lady等于夜母,还有online里lady in the cistern。目的是从精灵那夺走alchemy of the king。符号是5片花瓣的玫瑰被藤蔓卡住然后一滴神血滴到土地里。sanguine代表的是namira的Graal,mephala是namira的(血统网状的)爪牙和毒液。目的一是通过aphrodisiac来诱惑其他nede官和direnni来掌握权力,让他们通过义务和同情教育后代从而偷走知识,二是通过poison偷inheitance和偷走炼金笔记。然后在其他breton各种巫术communes和权力class里交易秘密和知识模仿direnni masters。然后是breton解放的间接动力但是衰退,解散和morag tong混流又演变成夜母和sithis崇拜。但都是namira腐败和变化的体现。


                      IP属地:上海来自Android客户端15楼2023-11-10 21:31
                      收起回复
                        你是不是玩过 beyond reach ?我的心理创伤还没好。


                        IP属地:安徽16楼2023-11-11 00:23
                        收起回复
                          没法爷就让breton成为炼金术士,附魔师,然后超越炼金成为化学用来改进锻造,料理,医疗,木工,学矮人造工程机。用炼金和附魔研究一切魔法。(不过还是保持奇幻伪中世的程度。让breton最出名的是医疗的炼金术和外科医术,然后就是作为斗争工具的毒药)


                          IP属地:上海来自Android客户端17楼2023-11-11 18:26
                          回复
                            breton peasants proverbs
                            what you give to the earth, she returns to you tripled in gold
                            ah, spiders! may she eat all the slugs, children of night away and grow fat and strong. before the daylight kills her!
                            the richest manure should be given to the fields owned by our Lord.
                            I hope you taste your own poison.
                            there is always a snake listening in the faimly business in the bushes.
                            may the mounds of family never be sealed!
                            spring is the time to prepare for Harvest.
                            the king lies dead under the hill.
                            five medicines, seven ills.
                            may wise sages find the cure in the vines.
                            grape is the bounty of earth.
                            ruddy wine in the cup, king on the earthly throne!
                            drink and eat, rest, tomorrow we may go back to the black soil in peace.
                            fallen leaves gather at the root.
                            go gently into dark night without fear, earth is a caring mother who shall bring you peace in death.
                            death is a new beginning, Summer comes a-sowing.
                            if you are bitten by a snake, you might as well bite back and see if it cures you.
                            Chance! Chance! (french pronunciation) Make something of yourself outside your home town, and come back to rest in rich old age upon home soil!
                            Endure through manifold wheels of chance, spend many a winters, the day soil turns wet and black will come fit for ploughing and sowing.
                            Sow plenty, eat till the belly is full.
                            if your belly is empty, rest. Wait for good Chance to bring you food in the wild!
                            nemo ne impune lassit
                            bring back honour and treasure to your family grave!
                            it is not death if there is a bit of dust in your soup.
                            children bring fortune to the hearth, harvest bring food to the table. seeds always provides.
                            if you get cut, put some salve on the wounds.
                            when life gives you a bad harvest, play some music to sheors tone and drink beer for one night. tomorrow find some games in the forest and sell their pelt and eat their meat.
                            no worry for going hungry when there is a mountain behind your back and woods close to your home.
                            good King brings fishes for good


                            IP属地:上海来自Android客户端18楼2023-11-11 22:12
                            收起回复
                              (numerology可能不对。。。还有中世纪peasant怎么说话可能要多读点chaucer和中世纪民歌)


                              IP属地:上海来自Android客户端19楼2023-11-11 22:16
                              回复