冷兵器吧 关注:427,592贴子:4,200,514

回复:求教,阿拉伯什么时候不靠骑兵作战了

只看楼主收藏回复

核心其实应该是骑马步兵==


IP属地:江苏49楼2011-08-08 15:25
回复
    搬板凳来学习


    52楼2011-08-08 15:47
    回复
      我问一个问题,倭马亚朝扩张时期兵力一般3-5万,入侵西班牙的1.5万,为什么攻打君士坦丁堡就那么多人?好像杜普伊也是这么说(具体记不清了)。


      IP属地:上海53楼2011-08-08 15:50
      回复
        虽然看不懂在说什么,但是好厉害的样子……


        IP属地:美国54楼2011-08-08 15:54
        回复
          一般是2-3万顶天了==
          攻打君堡的人数一是用的拜占庭记载,二来即使记载确实,也包含了大量桨手、水手


          IP属地:江苏55楼2011-08-08 17:09
          回复
            各位继续吵用力吵,本教已经加精了内


            IP属地:北京57楼2011-08-08 18:38
            回复




              以上文字说明一个问题,阿拉伯军队确实倚仗步兵,但步兵多是白白辅助兵,骑兵依旧由“真”阿拉伯人构成,没提是否阿拉伯人的主体是骑兵,但说明了一个问题,ysl早期征服倚仗步兵和alb人的军队主体是骑兵并没有太大冲突,即有阿拉伯人构成的骑兵,又有白白人的步兵,这才是伊斯兰军队的构成方式


              IP属地:广西58楼2011-08-08 19:36
              回复
                我的书是dark age armies,你是引这本,我这本出版年份是在80年代中期,他反复强调了真“arab”,算了,说这些没用,都是二手资料,我们没法读阿拉伯文原始的资料,鬼知道这些二手资料错了多少


                IP属地:广西61楼2011-08-08 19:48
                回复
                  Umayyad professional forces had changed considerably since the dynasty took over the caliphate following the initial wave of Arab-Islamic expansion in the mid-7th century AD. Although a significant role was still played by infantry archers and javelin throwers, most troops were now mounted infantry. Arab cavalry were still armed with spears and swords, rather than being horse-archers, but had learned much from their Iranian, Turkish and to a lesser extent Byzantine opponents. The Berbers and Germanic.
                  Such Berber tribal forces included substantial numbers of unarmoured light
                  cavalry and were almost certainly capable of fielding a larger proportion of
                  cavalry than the Arabs.
                  当然这只是David Nicolle在Poitiers AD 732一书中的观点
                  另外关于Poitiers,这一仗史料实在少得可怜,各本书之间大相径庭也很正常


                  IP属地:江苏63楼2011-08-08 20:03
                  回复